Billy Joel and his wife, Katie Lee Joel sat with Oprah Winfrey for their joint interview on Monday. As the Joels sat on the couch holding hands, Katie Lee explained to Winfrey how the 32-year age difference never really mattered to them.

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“He has this job that’s allowed him to be really immature for a long time and I happen to be more mature for my age, so we meet somewhere in the middle,” she said.